| Profitability | 96/100 |
| Growth | 74/100 |
| Momentum | 82/100 |
| Quality | 83/100 |
| Earnings Quality | 79/100 |
| Balance Sheet | 76/100 |
| Value | 34/100 |
| Risk (safety) | 100/100 |
| Overall | 75.3/100 |
| Symbol | IS Score |
|---|---|
| DIS | 44 |
| WBD | 15 |
| LYV | 41 |
| VZ | 41 |
| TMUS | 44 |
| T | 52 |
| NFLX | 75 |
Both readings sit above the midpoint — business quality at 75 and price structure at 52 out of 100 — so they are not in conflict. The fundamentals and the tape are saying the same thing, which is the case in which either one alone would have been enough.
| Trigger | Where it stands now | What it would mean |
|---|---|---|
| IS Score reaches 75 and holds two consecutive quarters | now 75.3 | would move us up one band |
| IS Score stops falling - one quarter higher than the prior | last four: 72 → 73 → 77 → 75 | the direction matters more than the level |
| Technical vote share back above 50% | now 55% | price structure no longer broken |
| Institutional holder count rises two quarters running | peak 3,610 → now 3,377 | fewer institutions willing to hold is our clearest warning |
This page is InsiderStreet's own reading, produced from the data in the rest of this document. It is not a price target and not investment advice. Analyst consensus and street price targets appear later under their own heading and are the street's numbers, not ours.
| Quarter | Holders | 13F shares | Value | Reported own% |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2026 Q2 | 3,377 | 3423.3M | $236.2B | 81.7% |
| 2026 Q1 | 3,610 | 3366.3M | $310.4B | 80.3% |
| 2025 Q4 | 3,535 | 3397.6M | $308.1B | 81.1% |
| 2025 Q3 | 3,463 | 3383.5M | $389.1B | 80.8% |
| 2025 Q2 | 3,457 | 3491.8M | $449.4B | 83.4% |
| 2025 Q1 | 3,175 | 3520.7M | $311.7B | 84.0% |
| 2024 Q4 | 3,101 | 3522.2M | $298.2B | 84.1% |
| 2024 Q3 | 2,736 | 3569.1M | $235.9B | 85.2% |
| 2024 Q2 | 2,618 | 3501.5M | $223.2B | 83.6% |
| 2024 Q1 | 2,493 | 3498.3M | $200.8B | 83.5% |
| 2023 Q4 | 2,280 | 3499.9M | $161.6B | 83.5% |
| 2023 Q3 | 2,032 | 3493.4M | $125.2B | 83.4% |
| Insider | Role | Date | Type | Shares | Value | Post-Txn Owned |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Mertz Elinor | director | 2026-10-01 | A-Award | 922 | $0.06M | 922 |
| Rice Susan E | director | 2026-10-01 | A-Award | 921 | $0.06M | 921 |
| Barton Richard N | director | 2026-10-01 | A-Award | 921 | $0.06M | 921 |
| Mather Ann | director | 2026-10-01 | A-Award | 921 | $0.06M | 921 |
| Masiyiwa Strive | director | 2026-10-01 | A-Award | 921 | $0.06M | 921 |
| Kilgore Leslie J | director | 2026-10-01 | A-Award | 921 | $0.06M | 921 |
| Dopfner Mathias | director | 2026-10-01 | A-Award | 921 | $0.06M | 921 |
| Karbowski Jeffrey William | Chief Accounting Officer | 2026-10-01 | A-Award | 1,075 | $0.07M | 1,075 |
| 6-mo decomposition (Form 4) | Txns | Shares | Value | Signal weight |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| S — Open-market sales | 33 | 2,025,224 | $184.4M | Counted |
| M — Exercises (paired A/D) | 43 | 1,646,522 | $16.1M | None — mechanics |
| F — Tax withholding | 30 | 144,051 | $11.8M | None — compensation |
| G — Gifts | 1 | 1,209 | — | None |
| P — Open-market purchases | 0 | 0 | $0 | Counted — none occurred |
| Filed | Filer | Shares registered | Est. proceeds |
|---|---|---|---|
| 2026-09-10 | Richard Barton | 720 | $0.1M |
| 2026-09-09 | Richard Barton | 720 | $0.1M |
| 2026-09-08 | Richard Barton | 720 | $0.1M |
| 2026-09-01 | Reed Hastings | 311,300 | $25.2M |
| Trailing 12 mo | 46 filings | 4,252,492 | $587M |
| Filed | Form | Reporting person | % of class | Shares |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2026-08-06 | SCHEDULE 13G/A | Abigail P. Johnson | 3.30% | 137.6M sh |
| 2026-04-30 | SCHEDULE 13G | Vanguard Capital Management | 7.49% | 316.3M sh |
| 2026-03-27 | SCHEDULE 13G/A | The Vanguard Group | — | exit/reporting change |
| 2025-04-07 | SCHEDULE 13G/A | Abigail P. Johnson | 5.10% | 22.3M sh |
| Member | Chamber | Trade | Size band | Traded | Disclosed |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ro Khanna | House | SELL | $1,001 - $15,000 | 2026-09-25 | 2026-10-09 |
| Cleo Fields | House | BUY | $1,001 - $15,000 | 2026-09-14 | 2026-10-02 |
| Ro Khanna | House | BUY | $1,001 - $15,000 | 2026-09-04 | 2026-10-09 |
| Cory Booker | Senate | SELL | $1,001 - $15,000 | 2026-08-11 | 2026-09-09 |
| Cory Booker | Senate | SELL | $1,001 - $15,000 | 2026-08-11 | 2026-09-09 |
| Cory Booker | Senate | SELL | $1,001 - $15,000 | 2026-08-11 | 2026-09-08 |
| Manager | Shares | Value |
|---|---|---|
| Assenagon Asset Management S.A. | 16.1M | $1.1B |
| Sarasin & Partners Llp | 2.6M | $178M |
| Fjarde Ap-Fonden /Fourth Swedish N | 1.7M | $120M |
| Mn Services Vermogensbeheer B.V. | 1.2M | $87M |
| Czech National Bank | 1.2M | $83M |
| Wealth Enhancement Advisory Servic | 1.1M | $71M |
| Fund | Weight | Position |
|---|---|---|
| VITSX | 0.4% | $9.2B |
| VSMPX | 0.4% | $9.2B |
| VTSAX | 0.4% | $9.2B |
| VTI | 0.4% | $9.2B |
| VFFSX | 0.4% | $7.6B |
| VFINX | 0.4% | $7.6B |
| ATS Venue (4-wk) | Shares | Avg trade |
|---|---|---|
| Incr Intelligent Cross Llc | 29.8M | 56 sh |
| Ubsa Ubs Ats | 24.7M | 57 sh |
| Bids Bids Ats | 19.5M | 259 sh |
| Pure Purestream | 15.3M | 65 sh |
| Ebxl Level Ats | 14.3M | 50 sh |
| Sgmt Sigma X2 | 13.7M | 55 sh |
| Region | Revenue | Share |
|---|---|---|
| United States And Canada | $20.0B | 44% |
| EMEA | $14.5B | 32% |
| Latin America | $5.4B | 12% |
| Asia Pacific | $5.4B | 12% |
Moat score 78/100 — Wide; primary source Efficient Scale.
| Officer | Title |
|---|---|
| Gregory K. Peters | Co-CEO, President & Director |
| Theodore A. Sarandos | Co-CEO, President & Director |
| Spencer Adam Neumann | Chief Financial Officer |
| David Hyman | Chief Legal Officer & Secretary |
| Period | EPS est. | EPS actual | EPS surprise | Rev est. ($M) | Rev actual ($M) | Rev surprise |
|---|
| YoY growth | FY21 | FY22 | FY23 | FY24 | FY25 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Revenue | +18.8% | +6.5% | +6.7% | +15.6% | +15.9% |
| Gross profit | +27.2% | +0.7% | +12.5% | +28.2% | +22.0% |
| Operating income | +35.1% | -9.1% | +23.5% | +49.8% | +27.9% |
| Net income | +85.3% | -12.2% | +20.4% | +61.1% | +26.1% |
| $B · FY ends | FY21 | FY22 | FY23 | FY24 | FY25 | Trend |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Revenue | 29.7 | 31.6 | 33.7 | 39.0 | 45.2 | |
| Cost of revenue | 17.3 | 19.2 | 19.7 | 21.0 | 23.3 | |
| Gross profit | 12.4 | 12.4 | 14.0 | 18.0 | 21.9 | |
| R&D expense | 2.3 | 2.7 | 2.7 | 2.9 | 3.4 | |
| SG&A expense | 3.9 | 4.1 | 4.4 | 4.6 | 5.2 | |
| Operating income | 6.2 | 5.6 | 7.0 | 10.4 | 13.3 | |
| EBITDA | 19.0 | 20.3 | 21.5 | 26.3 | 30.3 | |
| D&A | 12.4 | 14.4 | 14.6 | 15.6 | 16.8 | |
| Pretax income | 5.8 | 5.3 | 6.2 | 10.0 | 12.7 | |
| Income tax | 0.7 | 0.8 | 0.8 | 1.3 | 1.7 | |
| Net income | 5.1 | 4.5 | 5.4 | 8.7 | 11.0 | |
| Diluted EPS ($) | 1.12 | 0.99 | 1.20 | 1.98 | 2.53 | |
| Diluted shares (M) | 4,554 | 4,513 | 4,495 | 4,393 | 4,317 |
| $B | FY22 | FY23 | FY24 | FY25 | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Cash & equivalents | 5.1 | 7.1 | 7.8 | 9.0 | |
| ST investments | 0.9 | 0.0 | 1.8 | 0.0 | |
| Receivables (net) | 1.6 | 1.8 | 2.0 | 2.6 | |
| Total current assets | 9.3 | 9.9 | 13.1 | 13.0 | |
| PP&E (net) | 1.4 | 1.5 | 1.6 | 2.0 | |
| Goodwill + intangibles | 32.7 | 31.7 | 32.5 | 32.8 | |
| Total assets | 48.6 | 48.7 | 53.6 | 55.6 | |
| Accounts payable | 0.7 | 0.7 | 0.9 | 0.9 | |
| Short-term debt | 0.0 | 0.4 | 1.8 | 1.0 | |
| Deferred revenue | 1.3 | 1.4 | 1.5 | 1.8 | |
| Total current liabilities | 7.9 | 8.9 | 10.8 | 11.0 | |
| Long-term debt | 14.4 | 14.1 | 13.8 | 13.5 | |
| Total liabilities | 27.8 | 28.1 | 28.9 | 29.0 | |
| Shareholders' equity | 20.8 | 20.6 | 24.7 | 26.6 |
| $B | FY22 | FY23 | FY24 | FY25 | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Net income | 4.5 | 5.4 | 8.7 | 11.0 | |
| D&A | 14.4 | 14.6 | 15.6 | 16.8 | |
| Stock-based compensation | 0.6 | 0.3 | 0.3 | 0.4 | |
| Working capital change | (0.8) | (0.1) | (0.0) | (0.5) | |
| Operating cash flow | 2.0 | 7.3 | 7.4 | 10.1 | |
| Capital expenditures | (0.4) | (0.3) | (0.4) | (0.7) | |
| Investing cash flow | (2.1) | 0.5 | (2.2) | 1.0 | |
| Buybacks | 0.0 | (6.0) | (6.3) | (9.1) | |
| Dividends paid | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | |
| Debt issuance / (repay) | (0.7) | 0.0 | 1.4 | (1.8) | |
| Financing cash flow | (0.7) | (6.0) | (4.1) | (10.3) | |
| Free cash flow | 1.6 | 6.9 | 6.9 | 9.5 |
| Ratio | FY21 | FY22 | FY23 | FY24 | FY25 | TTM | Trend |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| PROFITABILITY | |||||||
| ROE | 38.0% | 24.5% | 26.1% | 38.4% | 42.8% | 48% | |
| ROA | 12.2% | 9.6% | 11.1% | 17.0% | 20.1% | 23.4% | |
| ROIC | 19.4% | 15.2% | 19.9% | 27.5% | 35.9% | 24.3% | |
| Gross margin | 41.6% | 39.4% | 41.5% | 46.1% | 48.5% | 49.1% | |
| Operating margin | 20.9% | 17.8% | 20.6% | 26.7% | 29.5% | 29.7% | |
| Net margin | 17.2% | 14.2% | 16.0% | 22.3% | 24.3% | 28.2% | |
| EBITDA margin | 64.1% | 64.3% | 63.8% | 67.5% | 67.0% | 72.4% | |
| FCF margin | -0.4% | 5.1% | 20.5% | 17.7% | 20.9% | — | |
| VALUATION | |||||||
| P/E | 53.67 | 29.65 | 40.47 | 44.79 | 36.86 | 21.8 | |
| P/B | 17.32 | 6.41 | 10.63 | 15.77 | 15.21 | 9.8 | |
| P/S | 9.25 | 4.21 | 6.49 | 10.00 | 8.96 | 6.07 | |
| P/FCF | -2080.48 | 82.29 | 31.60 | 56.37 | 42.78 | 26.7 | |
| EV/EBITDA | 15.00 | 7.09 | 10.60 | 15.14 | 13.56 | 8.5 | |
| EV/Revenue | 9.65 | 4.56 | 6.78 | 10.22 | 9.08 | 6.2 | |
| Earnings yield | 1.9% | 3.4% | 2.5% | 2.2% | 2.7% | 4.62% | |
| FCF yield | -0.0% | 1.2% | 3.2% | 1.8% | 2.3% | 3.74% | |
| Ratio | FY21 | FY22 | FY23 | FY24 | FY25 | TTM | Trend |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| LEVERAGE & SOLVENCY | |||||||
| Current ratio | 0.95 | 1.17 | 1.12 | 1.22 | 1.19 | 1.14 | |
| Quick ratio | 0.95 | 1.17 | 1.12 | 1.22 | 1.19 | 1.14 | |
| Debt / equity | 1.14 | 0.81 | 0.82 | 0.73 | 0.54 | 0.47 | |
| Debt / assets | 40.6% | 34.8% | 34.8% | 33.6% | 26.0% | 24.5% | |
| Net debt / EBITDA | 0.63 | 0.53 | 0.46 | 0.32 | 0.18 | 0.15 | |
| Interest coverage | 8.05 | 8.45 | 9.11 | 14.46 | 17.38 | — | |
| Ratio | FY21 | FY22 | FY23 | FY24 | FY25 | TTM | Trend |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| EFFICIENCY | |||||||
| Asset turnover | 0.71 | 0.68 | 0.69 | 0.76 | 0.83 | 0.83 | |
| Receivables turnover | 41.97 | 35.26 | 29.63 | 29.75 | 26.84 | 24.1 | |
| DSO (days) | 9 | 10 | 12 | 12 | 14 | 15 | |
| DPO (days) | 16 | 14 | 13 | 14 | 14 | 12 | |
| Cash conversion cycle | -7 | -4 | -1 | -2 | -1 | 3 | |
| GROWTH (YoY) | |||||||
| Revenue growth | 18.8% | 6.5% | 6.7% | 15.7% | 15.8% | — | |
| Net income growth | 85.3% | -12.2% | 20.4% | 61.1% | 26.1% | — | |
| EPS growth | 85.1% | -11.4% | 21.0% | 65.4% | 27.8% | — | |
| FCF growth | -106.8% | 1326.4% | 327.9% | -0.1% | 36.7% | — | |
| PER SHARE ($) | |||||||
| EPS (diluted, TTM) | 1.12 | 0.99 | 1.20 | 1.99 | 2.54 | 3.26 | |
| Book value / share | 3.48 | 4.60 | 4.58 | 5.65 | 6.17 | 7.20 | |
| Revenue / share | 6.52 | 7.00 | 7.50 | 8.91 | 10.47 | 11.55 | |
| FCF / share | -0.03 | 0.36 | 1.54 | 1.58 | 2.19 | 2.62 | |
| Cash / share | 1.32 | 1.34 | 1.59 | 2.19 | 2.10 | 2.18 | |
| SHAREHOLDER RETURN & SCORES | |||||||
| Buyback yield | 0.2% | 0.0% | 2.8% | 1.6% | 2.3% | 3.26% | |
| Altman Z-Score | 7.28 | 4.46 | 6.51 | 10.36 | 11.10 | 9.3 | |
| Piotroski F-Score | 5 | 6 | 8 | 8 | 7 | 7/9 | |
| Beneish M-Score | -1.55 | -1.33 | -2.64 | -2.30 | -2.17 | -2.09 | |
| Model | Score | Zone | Note |
|---|---|---|---|
| Piotroski F-Score | 7 / 9 | Strong | |
| Altman Z-Score | 9.3 | Safe (>2.99) | Safe |
| Income quality | 0.87 | Accrual-heavy | OCF ÷ net income |
| Beneish M-Score | -2.09 | Elevated | vs −2.22 threshold |
| DuPont Decomposition (TTM) | Value |
|---|---|
| Tax burden | 0.83 |
| Interest burden | 0.95 |
| Operating margin | 35.8% |
| Asset turnover | 0.87× |
| Financial leverage | 2.02× |
| = ROE | 50% |
| Growth Quality (live) | Value |
|---|---|
| Revenue stability | 0.95 |
| Earnings stability | 0.83 |
| Earnings persistence | 0.87 |
| Revenue CAGR 3y | 14.6% |
| EPS CAGR 3y | 50.5% |
| FCF CAGR 3y | 37.2% |
| Company | Mkt cap | P/E | ROE | Net margin | Rev growth | Piotroski | 1-yr ret |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| DIS | $190.9B | 22.7 | 8% | 10.4% | +4.6% | 6/9 | +1.3% |
| WBD | $77.6B | -24.4 | -9% | 1.7% | -6.1% | 4/9 | +63.0% |
| LYV | $39.7B | -155.0 | 61% | 3.8% | +10.8% | 3/9 | +12.5% |
| VZ | $186.1B | 11.7 | 16% | 11.2% | +1.4% | 5/9 | +11.0% |
| TMUS | $170.7B | 16.6 | 18% | 14.2% | +9.7% | 6/9 | — |
| T | $160.6B | 7.7 | 20% | 14.7% | +2.6% | 7/9 | — |
| DASH | $82.0B | 97.5 | 9% | 4.5% | +33.6% | 6/9 | — |
| CMCSA | $77.5B | 7.1 | 12% | 11.8% | +0.6% | 7/9 | — |
| Consensus estimates | Revenue mean | High / Low | EPS mean | High / Low | # EPS est. |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| FY2026 | $51.22B | $51.45B / $51.09B | $3.60 | $3.69 / $3.56 | 32 |
| FY2027 | $56.93B | $58.09B / $55.99B | $3.80 | $4.07 / $3.58 | 34 |
| FY2028 | $62.72B | $64.91B / $59.71B | $4.54 | $5.10 / $3.81 | 32 |
| Window | Avg Target | vs. Price | # Targets |
|---|---|---|---|
| Last Month | $88.89 | +26.0% | 9 |
| Last Quarter | $89.77 | +27.3% | 13 |
| Last Year | $106.96 | +51.7% | 76 |
| All Time | $108.14 | +53.3% | 316 |
| Moving Average | Value | Distance | % Distance | Signal |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| SMA 20 | $70.32 | +0.21 | +0.30% | Above |
| SMA 50 | $75.09 | -4.56 | -6.07% | Below |
| SMA 200 | $82.88 | -12.35 | -14.90% | Below |
| EMA 9 | $70.68 | -0.15 | -0.21% | Below |
| EMA 21 | $71.39 | -0.86 | -1.20% | Below |
| EMA 50 | $73.58 | -3.05 | -4.15% | Below |
| EMA 200 | $83.06 | -12.53 | -15.09% | Below |
| Level | Value | Level | Value |
|---|---|---|---|
| Pivot / R1 / R2 | $72.34 / $73.34 / $74.08 | S1 / S2 | $71.60 / $70.60 |
| Bollinger (20,2) | $67.06 – $73.57 | Squeeze | Off |
| 52-wk range | $65.08 – $124.86 | Off 52-wk high | -43.5% |
| ATR (14) | $1.89 (2.7%) | Historical vol | 28.4% |
| Computed from live weekly prices | NFLX | S&P 500 |
|---|---|---|
| Weekly volatility (σ, 1y) | 5.19% | 1.83% |
| Best / worst week (1y) | +17.2% / -10.8% | — |
| Max drawdown (5y, monthly) | -75.3% | — |
| 1-week VaR (95%) | -8.3% | — |
| Beta (5y) | 1.53 | 1.00 |
| Reading | NFLX | Entertainment n=379 | Communication Services n=1,956 | All US symbols n=70,435 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Overall | +2.0 | -15.5 | -17.5 | -20.5 |
| Trend | -1.8 | -20.5 | -21.6 | -21.3 |
| Momentum | +27.2 | -11.2 | -14.5 | -15.8 |
| Volume | +37.3 | +0.0 | -6.2 | -3.8 |
| Executive | Total comp | Structure |
|---|---|---|
| TED SARANDOS co-Chief Executive Officer and | $53.9M | 90% equity+incentive |
| GREG PETERS co-Chief Executive Officer and P | $53.2M | 91% equity+incentive |
| SPENCER NEUMANN Chief Financial Officer | $20.8M | 90% equity+incentive |
| DAVID HYMAN Chief Legal Officer | $15.4M | 87% equity+incentive |
| CLETE WILLEMS Chief Global Affairs Officer | $14.3M | 75% equity+incentive |
| Pillar (live disclosure scores) | Score |
|---|---|
| Environmental | 48 |
| Social | 47 |
| Governance | 57 |
| Composite ESG | 51 |
| Filed | 8-K contents | Items |
|---|---|---|
| 2026-07-30 | Officer/Director Change | 5.02 |
| 2026-07-22 | Other Events; Exhibits | 8.01,9.01 |
| 2026-07-16 | Earnings Release; Exhibits | 2.02,9.01 |
| 2026-06-05 | Shareholder Vote; Other Events | 5.07,8.01 |
| 2026-04-23 | Other Events | 8.01 |
| 2026-04-16 | Earnings Release; Officer/Director Change; Exhibits | 2.02,5.02,9.01 |
| 2026-02-27 | Termination of Material Definitive Agreement | 1.02 |
| 2026-01-20 | Entry into Material Definitive Agreement; Regulation FD Disclosure; Fi | 1.01,7.01,9.01 |
Methodology. Every figure originates in InsiderStreet's production data layer and is computed deterministically by the same engines that power insiderstreet.ai. This factsheet contains no model-written text. Sections without underlying data are omitted rather than estimated.
| Data domain | Source | Coverage for this report |
|---|---|---|
| Price & volume | market_db.historical_prices | 52 rows |
| Fundamentals | income_statements_annual | 6 rows · 2020 to 2025 |
| Reported vs consensus | fact/earnings_calendar | 24 rows · 2020-10-20 to 2026-07-16 |
| Analyst estimates | dim/forward_estimates | 3 rows · 2026-12-31 to 2028-12-31 |
| Institutional ownership (13F) | holdings_db.institutional_ownership_summary | 98 rows · 2002 to 2026 |
| Insider transactions (Form 4) | edgar/form4 | 12 rows · 2026-09-10 to 2026-10-01 |
| Proposed sales (Form 144) | edgar/form144 | 1 record |
| Beneficial ownership (13D/G) | edgar/13dg | 4 rows · 2025-04-07 to 2026-08-06 |
| Short-sale volume (FINRA) | edgar/short_volume_daily | 60 rows · 2026-07-23 to 2026-10-15 |
| Dark pool (ATS, tier 1) | edgar/darkpool_weekly | 12 rows · 2026-06-15 to 2026-08-31 |
| ETF & fund holding | etf_holdings_changelog (30d) | 1 record |
| Peer set | stock_peers_dynamic | 8 rows |
| Industry medians | industry_medians | 1 record |
| Congressional trades | congress_db (House + Senate) | 1 record |
| ESG | fact/esg_disclosures | 1 record |
Method. Every figure in this factsheet is looked up from a named field computed in code. It contains no model-written text.
Not covered. Short interest as a percent of float and days-to-cover are not in this data set — the short-sale figures above are FINRA volume, a flow, and cannot support squeeze or covering analysis. Options positioning and intraday data are also absent. 13F ownership is filed 45 days after quarter end and congressional trades are disclosed on a lag, so both describe a past position, not a current one.